Parting Off on the Lathe

That old Chestnut …. Again

Go onto any home workshop forum and I am sure you will find a number of threads on the fractious subject of parting off on the lathe. It is a perennial topic that everyone has their sometimes not so humble opinions on. It seems to be the machinists equivalent to the search for the Holy Grail.

If you have a bulky rock stable mass for your lathe the problem is easier to solve. Rigidity rules when it comes to parting off. If you are less privileged on funds or workshop space you are more likely to have a Myford equivalent machine. The problem will then get magnified simply because there is not so much stability in the machine structure.

I have tried various parting tool configurations and I have to be honest I get a severe case of ‘squeaky bum time’ when faced with parting off steel. Brass and ally I can cope with but steel usually makes me wimp out and rush for the hacksaw.

My parting weapon of choice is a hand graver. This is appropriate for small diameters and using a graver is very educational. You can feel how the cut is progressing and you can feel how the cutting action changes as you change the angle of attack. It is a lovely craftsman’s tool and for clockmaking, in various geometries, is indispensable.

For larger diameter parting I have progressed through HSS front cutting, insert front cutting, Hemmingway kit rear cutting and now the latest variant – a simple insert tool holder rear cutting.

My parting collection – graver, HSS, front insert, Hemmingway and the new rear insert

To be fair the insert front cutting does work for brass and ally but on claggy ally the tool would often dig in and can jam the chuck no matter how much lubrication I use. This I assume is because front cutting leads to a digging in action whereas rear cutting throws the tool outward from the cutting groove.

The Hemmingway kit was a thoroughly enjoyable experience to build and it looks brilliant but the blades seem too prone to flexing. It is a real shame given how nice the finished tool looks. (Yes, I do accept that it might be something to do with my construction). So nice as it looks I tend to have little universal confidence in it.

So what is my latest parting panacea ?

I have mounted a standard, universally available, insert blade parting tool (SPB326) on the side of an old rear mounting post that originally came as part of a knurling tool. The tool clamping on the post has a sliding curved pressure support surface which allows tool height variations. I fixed a 12mm square steel clamping block on the rear of the parting blade with 2 x M5 cap head screws and clamped this in the mounting post.

I did a few facing actions on some brass to get the centre line correct and then began trial partings on brass and ally. It worked like a dream. Encouraged by this I moved onto a piece of 10mm silver steel (drill rod). Plenty of cutting oil was applied and apart from the initial engagement chatter it just cut beautifully. Lovely snails of swarf, no SBT reaction, no hacksaw needed.

Alright the blade and the insert are wider than ideal (3mm SP300) but this probably adds to the rigidity of the setup. A consequence will be that I will be wasting more metal in the cutting action but at last I seem to have a tool and recipe that I trust to work.

Well, for the time being anyway.

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Rear Parting Tool Post on Myford Super 7

 I’ve been meaning for some time to make a rear tool post for my Myford Super 7 when parting off material.   There are various comments on the web about how a rear mounted blade is the best way to succeed for this activity.

Hemmingway Kits here in the UK offer a kit of materials and instructions based on the Geo. H Thomas design as detailed in his ‘Red Book’  (ISBN 1-85761-000-8).  This seemed like a good route to take.

The kit arrived with all the materials and documentation needed including a casting for the body of the post.  You do have to make a couple of cutting tools as part of the activity but again the material is supplied for this.  I found that having access to the Red Book in conjunction with the Hemmingway kit notes helped me better understand what was involved.

Having the Tormach CNC mill allowed me to depart slightly from the intended construction  but it all came together very well.   I had some Myford Aqua blue paint to hand from my Clough42 Electronic Leadscrew control panel enclosure and this finished off the project nicely as shown below.   However I do need to crop back the excess on the rear of the blades before blood is spilt.

Hemmingway rear tool post parting tool holder
The finished rear parting tool holder made from the Hemmingway Kit

Trial cuts have so far been excellent. I can now use the power cross feed when parting brass which is a major departure.  Overall a good addition to my workshop assets and a relaxing pleasure to make.

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